Urgent Care :: Please help! Is my turtle still alive?!

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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:21 pm   

Smssms01 wrote:Look, if I had it my way I would take BOTH the turtles to a vet this second...it's a thing called parental authority...it's not that I want to "risk it." I would never risk my turtles health if I could prevent it.


I didnt mean for it to get you mad. I just think that it would be a good idea, its up to you in the long run. Your setup is good. Though, i would prepare for worst case scenarios - its always good to have a little extra $$$ laying around under your sofa or buried in your back yard..in case an emergency happens, you know.

I'm sorry...I wasnt trying to lash out on you or anything.

Sorry for your loss.. :cry:
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:08 pm   

Oh - I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come across as angry! I'm just upset and hormonal right now. I do agree that it would be a good idea to save up the money to take him to see a vet as soon as possible, and you've convinced me that that would really be the safest thing to do.

Thank-you for your condolences. And for your insight when I first posted...it really calmed me down in my first few minutes of panic.

G'night!
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:13 am   

Sorry to hear what happened. If they were in the same tank, one was growing and thriving and the other was not, perhaps he wasn't getting all the nourishment he should have (the other was hogging the food).

Just keeping cuttlebone in the tank isn't enough to supply all a turtle's calcium needs. Are you sure he was even eating any?
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:57 pm   

Thank-you!

I'm sure he was eating, because I feed them in separate containers and know exactly how much they have eaten. I will only put the food right in the tank on rare occassions when I am very busy (such as the night before he died).

I know someone was eating the cuttlebone (pieces were floating around), but I don't know if it was him.

I've just bought phosphorus-free calcium and vitamin D powder to put over the others food...?
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:33 pm   

Thats fine. Make sure to follow the instructions on the container. Your other turtle needs calcium, yes. But other vitamins as well. What do you feed it? I feed my guys a powder supplement called Reptivite 3 times a week.
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:50 pm   

Eddie, just a word of caution about the vitamins. Some vitamins can be toxic if taken too often. For young turtles a couple of times a week is probably good but make sure the food is lightly dusted not caked on. Once they reach adult size you could cut it back to once a week. Just watch for symptoms of vitamin A overdose (eye problems for one).
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:05 pm   

Yeah, i have learned to take caution. I gently sprinkle the powder onto the pellets, very little though. I've read that too much isnt good.

Smss01, remember to take caution.

Thanks for the heads up david :)
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:07 pm   

Cool. I figured you would know better but I just wanted to make sure. :)
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:34 pm   

HELP PLZ..I DON'T WANT MY TURTLE TO DIE...my turtle has the same symptoms as the ones you stated!!! is it gona die???
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:38 pm   

Yes your turtle will die if he has the same symptom's as felix's turtle's. You must take it to a vet ASAP. But..we need more info on your setup and turtle.




How big is your turtle?
How long have you had it?

What is the water temperature?
Are you using a water heater?
How much water is in there?
Are you using a water conditioner?
Are you using any filtration?

What is the basking temperature?
Is there a basking light?
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on?
What kind is it or what is it made out of?
Is there a UVB light?

What have you been trying to feed it?
When was the last time your turtle ate?

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure?
Is the tank near a window?
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity?

Have you read the Basic Care section?
Have you searched the forums for similar situations?

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms?

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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:59 pm   

I bought my turtle last July...it's still roughly the same size as when i bought it..about a quarter size..since it's significantly smaller than my other two turtles, who are in good condition, i bought a smaller tank for it..i was waiting it to grow bigger so that i can place it with my other two..

How big is your turtle? a quarter size/a lil smaller than a half-dollar coin
How long have you had it? less than 1 year

What is the water temperature? i have no clue, the tank is placed on top of a sheet heater to keep the water warm
Are you using a water heater? no
How much water is in there? same height as the turtle (while laying on its belly)
Are you using a water conditioner? no
Are you using any filtration? no

What is the basking temperature? n/a
Is there a basking light? no..not for the baby turtle's tank
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on? n/a
What kind is it or what is it made out of? n/a
Is there a UVB light? n/a

What have you been trying to feed it? the food i got from Petsmart (i cut it up into smaller pieces)
When was the last time your turtle ate? last time i physically saw it eat was probably couple months ago

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure? 6'' by 5'' and 5'' high
Is the tank near a window? about 5ft away
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity? no

Have you read the Basic Care section? long time ago
Have you searched the forums for similar situations? yes..it's how i found this one

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms?
cannot submerge...
sometimes it thrusts its head and arms out slowly at the same time occasionally..
sometimes it sticks its head out all the way and opens its mouth
constantly closed eyes..
closed mouth..
legs always retracted
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:22 pm   

Whoa man, there is so much you need to get and do. I dont know where to start.

After a couple of month's (close to a year) your turtle should be around 3 to 4 inches long depending on how much you feed it and what you feed it. An overweight turtle is a unhealthy turtle and an underweight one is just as bad.

What exactly have you been feeding it? RES should have a varied diet of vegetable's, aquatic plants, insects/fish, and commercial food pellet's. Not just turtle food, turtle food alone doesnt cut it. Another reason why he may be small and not growing are parasite's, in that case he need's to go to a vet ASAP, especially since he is showing symptom's of a respiratory infection, which is FATAL if not treated by a vet.

You need a water heater to keep the water at a constant 78 degrees, and 82 degrees for a sick turtle. Without one your turtle can sick with a respiratory infection (what your turtle may have). Get one ASAP.

You also need a UVB light in addition to a heat lamp for proper bone growth and to prevent disease's like shell rot and etc, which is also fatal.

RES also need deep water, they love deep water. Keep in mind in the wild they swim in realy deep lake's.

You also need a water filter.

And you need about 10 gallon's per every inch of your turtle. 3 Turtle's will require a 340 gallon tank when they are older and that's if they get along. If not you will need a couple of 100 gallon tank's for each of them!

I realy realy suggest that you read ALL the info on here: www.redearslider.com

and please take your turtle to a vet before it is too late and it die's. Keep him warm, and as stress free as possible. You have a long way to go..but I guarantee you will succeed if you realy try, turtle's are NOT easy pet's to keep and require alot of time and care and hundred's of dollar's spent.

Good luck, if you need any extra help feel free to PM me.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:26 pm   

P.S this is a link to ALL the item's that you need. But since you have 3 turtle's you will probably need a much bigger tank. here ya go:

http://www.redearslider.com/startup.html

Good luck, :)
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:35 pm   

i have another tank for the bigger turtles with everything they need...i wanted the baby one to grow bigger..because the big ones might crush it...the water level for the baby one was low because i don't want it to drown..
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:06 pm   

It could be parasites or it could be just a genetic defect. But an unhealthy turtle needs the basic necessities (heater, uvb, basking light, nutrition, etc) as much if not more so than a healthy turtle. I don't know what to say, if he hasn't eaten in a couple of months and he's that sick... :?
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