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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:26 pm   Help..Strange Lump..maybe infection/abcess or Loose Skin?

Hi any help would be appreciated.

I recently noticed (upon cleaning his tank) that my 18-19 Year old Yellow Belly Slider (male) had this odd lump on his neck flap..it does not look like the normal location for an abscess and it apperas to look more like a puffed up lump that is soft and moveable under his skin flap. Note it is not on his head but the flap of skin..also no redness or white..just a bump under the neck flap. The bump sometimes moves toward the upper side portion of his neck while swimming etc..

He is about 9-10 Inches, very active and is eating normally as well as basking normally, so other then this he is perfectly healthy. A few years back I took him to the vet for a vitamin injection to stimulate his appetite, and she said the shell had some rot, but it was nothing to worry about since he was an old turtle. He is very active so he has also chipped parts of his shell in the past. She told me it will take a long time to heal.

Tank is a 90 Gallon, 82degres, UVA/UVB bulb and Heat lamp, 1 XP3 Cannister filter and a 1 Aquaclear 500. 200 watt unbreakable Heater etc. I feed him various pellets..mainly Nutrafin Max...when he was small Tetra Repto Min. The only fruit/veg he will eat are blueberries, but most of the time he only likes pellets...so I would say 95% of his diet are pellets. I also coat the pellets with Calcium every few days.

He also has some large rocks to play with as well as a custom basking area. He loves to divebomb off the basking area into the water so I am wondering if the cause may have bee him scraping his skin on his shell when diving into the water?

I think he has had this "lump" for about 4 months now (based on some old photos I had taken around Christmas)..its really hard to notice when he is basking or swimming....however when he stays in one spot with his head tilted left in the water I can see it... I feel really bad for not noticing early. I have 3 Turtles (1 Yellow Belly and 2 Red Ears) in 3 different tanks. (One 90 Gallon and two 75 Gallons and this is the first problem I have had in all these years)

He is a crazy active turtle and I just want to know if everything is okay or if I should take him to a Vet...I just find it so difficult to watch a vet inject a turtle with vitamins etc :(

I was just wondering is this excess skin? An abscess? A vitamin E difficiency? etc....

Please check these photo/video and let me know if it is just loose skin?

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/kk15 ... nt=019.flv

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk15 ... t/turt.jpg


Sorry for the long post...I am just worried..
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:11 pm   

Is that really a YBS? He looks funny.

I would jack up the heat to 75. That's the normal temp for adults.

As for the bump, I couldn't tell ya. It's huge!
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:53 pm   

Hi yeah I am pretty sure he is a YBS...he looked identical and as colourful when he was a baby (or course that was 18+ years ago) to the pics I have seen online. I read as the YBS males age the carapace darkens..and that seems to be true..

I have the water temp at 82..basking I dont remember at the moment..but when I last took the temp it was withing the required setting..I think it was upper 80s low 90s. I cant remember at the moment.

I have never seen anything like this online and it doesnt seem to be bothering him at all..its just very odd..I dont think its something extremely dangerous as I believe he has had it for at least a few months..I just didnt notice until now :(.

Here is another pic..

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk15 ... /turt2.jpg
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:47 pm   

It looks a little too low to be an ear abscess. I might guess that it's some sort of tumor. I'd take her to a vet and see what they think. It may just be an abscess which can be easily lanced and treated with antibiotics or just a benign or fatty tumor.

Since it's asymmetrical I really don't think she's just overall pudgy.
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:28 pm   

It could be an abcess (they can occur anywhere), it could be a cyst. It would be good to have it checked out.
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Post Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:22 pm   

Just an update. I took him to the Herp Vet today and she told me it was a loose skin or fatty deposit and nothing more. :) I am just happy to know He is fine. The vet also confirmed he is a Male and a Yellow Belly and that he has NO shell rot, but rather a lot of shell injuries due to his crazyness..she said he is a perfect healthy 20 year old turtle and should be around for another 20. She also said I have been doing everything correct with my setup and temps :). Thanks.
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Post Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:27 pm   

Good! I'm relieved it wasn't turtle cancer or something. ^_^
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Post Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:22 pm   

that's quite a relief! i was going to venture a guess at a fatty deposit. i got a little scared once with my oldest but he had a fatty deposit at the bottom of his neck (a little different from your turt) and i think that's just b/c my oldest is a little piggy!
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Post Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:42 pm   

Yes I am ecstatic :) I am just happy to know that he is in perfect health :) Thanks
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Post Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:44 pm   

Good to hear! :D
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Post Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:13 pm   

Glad to hear he's healthy! What a great job you've done keeping him so well for 20 years.
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