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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:40 pm   Seeking "used tank" advice

I am going to look at a 135 gallon tank tomorrow for $275. Comes with stand (the cabinet type), heater, pump, and hood/canopy, whatever you call them. I was wondering if there's anything in particular I should be looking for to make sure it is in good condition and will last awhile. Are there obvious signs if it leaks?

Also, is the pump the filtration system, or just part of it? I'm unfamiliar with "pumps", only had the cascading style filters.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:48 pm   

Look closely at the silicone seams between the glass panels. Look for any peeling, cracks, loose areas, etc. Most likely the pump is the filter, but it depends on what the tank was used for before. If it was a saltwater tank, then it could just be a powerhead type pump that just circulates the water.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:50 pm   

Ask if you could put a little water in there, and wait about 20 minutes to see if it leaks... hey if you are gonna buy, they should let you test it out!
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:51 pm   

This is a used tank? I'm no expert, but I'd be looking at the silicone seams that are holding it together to see if there are any obvious chunks out of it, for example. A hole that could cause a slow leak could be the size of a pinhole, though, so the only way to really test it would be to fill it with water. I've got a 20L that's developed a slow leak, and the area that I'm guessing is leaking is where the silicone looks like it might be lifting a bit from the glass (haven't emptied and filled it to really see where it's leaking).

The pump would be part of the filtration system. It would pump the water to the filter. What kind of filtration system is it? A sump?
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:21 pm   

Thanks, definitely will look at the silicone! If it does look like there might be a small leak, how easy are those repairable for the "home maintenance man". I was able to fix a leak in my windshield......is it similar, just with non-toic aquarium silicone?

I ask because $275 seems like a really good deal to me for a 135 gal with everything it comes with.

I am assuming it is a sump? All of the stuff is underneath the tank in the cubbards in the stand.


If I do decide to get, are there any special precautions I need to take to get it home? I'm gonna put it in the bed of my pick up. I was planning on putting the stand and tank next to each other and snuggly trapping them together. Do I need to put anything under it to cushion it, or in between the two to cushion them?
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:35 pm   

My neighbor has a 55 gallon tank that has a little section boxed off in the tank with intake and output hoses which go underneath the tank into a canister-like thing which filters the water. Is it something like that?
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:55 pm   

It looks like it from the pictures. The pump is in the cabinet underneath, no tubes coming up to the top of the tank, so they must be coming in the bottom.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:41 pm   

That sounds like a saltwater setup (although it can be used for freshwater too). Usually saltwater setups use a remote sump where the heaters, filtration, etc. remains hidden and out of the way. Water is also drawn from the surface of the tank (where the surface protein scum tends to build up) via an overflow/surface skimmer (the boxed off section) which then drains into the sump. A return pump sends the filtered/heated water back to the main tank.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:55 pm   

You might be right. I just talked to her and arranged to see it tomorrow. She said they used to have African fish in it....i can't remember what it was though, something that started with an S.

Is that kind of filtration system sufficient for turts? Being that there's more solid waste.

I like the idea of having everything underneath the tank.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:29 pm   

African Cichlids...they're from either Lake Tanganyika, Lake Malawi or Lake Victoria. They're very colorful fish and some have very interesting characteristics and/or highly specialized feeding habits. They require very pristine water conditions, much like saltwater species, that's why they probably had them in a setup like that.

That kind of filtration would be very nice for your turtles. Skimming the water off the top of the tank is one of the more efficient ways to filter an aquarium as that's where a lot of the organic waste tends to adhere to. There's been a couple of threads about an oily scum layer on the surface of the water in some people's tanks. Usually the turbulence from the filters just churns the scum back into the water where the filter will eventually pull it out later. Skimming that scum right off the surface and into the filter before it builds up is even better.

The question is, where is that water being drawn into? Is it a cannister filter underneath, a "wet/dry" filter, or just an open sump? The first two are fine for filtering your tank water. The open sump will require some additional material to do the filtering. But it is more versatile to work with and you can choose whatever filtering media you want, like a sponge or filter floss for mechanical filtration, a carbon bag for chemical filtration, and some ceramic rings or bio balls for biological filtration. It's also a great place to keep the heater out of harms way.

Sounds like an nice setup. Show us some pics if you do get it. :D
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:04 am   

Sweet, I'm getting more excited about it. Can't wait till tomorrow! She said it doesn't leak at all (but I'll still examine it when I go), the pump and heater work great.

Anyone come up with any tricks for transporting it safely that I should know?
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:23 am   

Make sure the tank rests on its bottom frame as it is intended to be (not on its side). Also make sure the surface is flat and free of any large pieces of debri like sticks or rocks. If your truck bed is really dirty (like mine) you could lay a piece of plywood down and put the tank on top of that. Since it's empty, you won't need to worry too much about stressing the seams, but you should still be careful. It would be terrible for something that big to develop a leak after you get it home. And, of course, make sure nothing is sticking out of the cabinet (like handles) that could break or scratch the sides of the tank while your dodging the potholes on your way home. :)

That tank is going to be very heavy. Make sure you have at least one other person to help you move it. If you have to carry it far or up any stairs you may want to get a couple more guys to help. I think Scripta_Elegans posted a thread about trying to move her tank.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:30 am   

HA, potholes. I'm not that lucky. We have "jumps" on the freeway, lol. They span across the 2 lanes and shoulder. Unfinished road construction. I can't even drive my car on the freeway, and I broke a shock on my truck last week.

I will slow way down for the jumps. I will try and find a piece of plywood too, that is a really good idea.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:40 am   

Yikes! yea, be careful driving home. Another good idea is get a piece of thin foam padding or styrofoam to put under the tank. Some people even like to put that between the tank and the stand before filling it with water as it helps smooth out any tiny irregularities in the surface of the stand.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:43 am   

hmmm........liking the idea....not sure where to get foam....
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