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ok, so question. here can i get a sump pump and an overflow box as cheap as possible. i want to make a wet dry for my 65 gallon. so help please? ive been looking and no luck

You might want to check an aquarist/reef hobbyist site... most RES keepers do not use one.

thanks steve, but i think im abandoning the idea till i get a tank that is pre-drilled and doing it that way

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