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Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:52 am   UV and Filter questions

I've Been doing quite a bit of research but havnt found a solid answer for this question. Is a canister filter with UV sterilization safe for my turtle tank. I have a 2 y.o. RES and a 1.5 y.o. YBS. Also I will be upgrading to a 200gal tank and was wondering if the truaqua or SunSun 5 stage 525gph canister filter is enuff, or can I use the pond UV sterilizer that's around the same price.

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http://www.truaqua.com/aquatop-canister ... 500uv.html
http://www.truaqua.com/pond-uv-steriliz ... -pump.html
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:36 am   Re: UV and Filter questions

Yes a UV filter safe for your turtle. Many people swear by them but if you have proper filtration and maintain a good regiment for water changes and filter cleanings they aren't necessary. I've got a submersible UV filter that is sitting in a bin somewhere in storage. No need to use it. No desire to change the expensive bulbs out every 6 months. It's cheaper and easier to just get a proper sized filter and take care of it.

Here's our reccomended filter sizings and media setups:

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That aquatop canister filter is WAY too small for a 200 gallon turtle tank. 525GPH is from the pump with no media. When you fill the canister with media and add the head pressure from the height of the hoses you're probably at about half of that rating or less. On a 200 gallon tank, you'd only be turning the water over once an hour. 3-5x per hour turnover is ideal.

For example, a Fluval FX5 is rated at 900GPH at the pump. With media it's rated at 607 if memory serves me. Add in head pressure and you've got probably 500 GPH. We suggest no more than a 150Gallon turtle tank for an FX5.

The truaqua pond filter you linked is interesting. I haven't seen that one before. IF the specs match what the filter actually does then that's a much better fit for your tank. The question is how much media capacity is lost due to the space taken up by that UV sterilizer? Having a large quantity of bio media is key for turtle keeping. I would be more inclined to get that PFS300 for $50 more.
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:49 am   Re: UV and Filter questions

I just read through the manual for that all-in-one pond filter. The UV bulb needs to be changed every 8000 hours (11-ish months) not too bad. The replacement UV bulb for that filter is $12 ... also not bad. This seems almost too good to be true - the power of the pump included for the price.

If you decide to go the route of this truaqua pond filter, please let us know how it works out for you. I'm very curious about this filter. Thanks!!!
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Post Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:40 am   Re: UV and Filter questions

Thank You for replying, and thank you for explaining the math behind filters I thought the pond filter price was kind of low but I am willing to try it. Any suggestions for media since it seems to only hold bio balls?
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Post Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:46 am   Re: UV and Filter questions

My first suggestion would be don't use bio balls. I would use the ceramic rings/nuggets. The ceramic bio media has a ton more surface area when compared to the same volume of bio balls.

My second suggestion would be to see what the filter comes with. I assume it's got some sort of sponge for mechanical filtration. If not, you should be able to add some filter sponge or floss to the filter.

You'll want to add some carbon in a media bag to the filter as well. A pond outside with fresh air - you might not notice any odor. Indoors... it can smell and you want the water to be crystal clear for your aquarium viewing.

If you look at the link I posted earlier for the filter media thread, you'll see a section for generic filters. You'll need to figure out the water path through the pond filter and install the media in the order mentioned in that thread.

Dirty water --> Mechanical Media (sponge) -->Chemical Media (carbon) --> Bio Media (rings) --> return to aquarium
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:17 am   Re: UV and Filter questions

The second link you provided says "Not for tank use" I would find out why its only for pond use.
1 Male Mississippi Map/Mississippi
1 Female RES/Slidy.
1 DBT White Concentric Female/ Lucky
1 DBT Male/ Spots
(Housed in the same tank)

300 gallon indoor stock tank, FX6 & FX5 filters. Mega-Ray 100w UVB bulb.
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