Habitat - Indoor :: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Turtle tank setups and other indoor configurations.

Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:53 pm   Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

So after a trip from New England and getting a baby red eared slider from Boston's Chinatown, I decided to buy my girlfriend a little tiny baby turtle. Little did I know, it was going to be a pretty costly investment. So far we have him in a 10 gallon tank, with a basic small floating basking area, 10" heat lamp with a 60w incandescent bulb, 76 degree steady water heater, small river stone substrate with a plastic plant and some shells, and a cuttle bone (turtle calcium bone). So far Chang seems very happy, swimming around in his water, exploring his new home, but his eating is sort of worrying me. I know that we may have too much water, but he doesn't seem to mind, he uses up all the water in his swimming. It seems as if the only thing Chang eats is the dried krill which obviously isn't too great of a meal. We have offered him baby turtle pellets (which he takes very small bites and leaves the rest), gut filled small crickets (which he's very afraid of :lol: ), tropical fish flakes (which he has no interest in), and even the adult food that came with him (which he ignores).

One of my main questions is the UVB lamp layout. Since we have a pretty large sized heat lamp, there's limited room to provide a UVB light source for him. I would rather not buy another heat lamp along with the bulb so I'm hoping to get a fluorescent tube to provide the UVB. I just don't know where to find the actual fixture to plug the tube into and where to place it. Any help would be appreciated!

Here's some pictures of Chang and his home. (:

Little Chang (:
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His Home.
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Chang, his waterfall, and his water heater.
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Chang's plant, dock and bright light.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:33 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

So I just spent 70 bucks on amazon.com - SADFACE. I bought a 160watt MVB for the little guy, I got a GFCI plug to protect myself from any shock, and I got a gravel vacuum. Not bad?
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:30 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Well, now that you have the gravel vac, get rid of the gravel. Really! Your turtle will eat it, and it has the potential to get stuck inside them.
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You should also get a UVB light. Reptiglo 5.0 is what I use.

Other than that, your setup looks fine. It will work for a while while your little guy grows.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:56 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Your MVB bulb has UVB. The only problem is the size of the tank. A 160 watt MVB will heat up a 10 gallon like an oven. Unless you're ready to upgrade is tank you might want to send that back. Gravel is a no no. The turtle may eat it and become impacted, which could be deadly. It's also much harder to keep clean and can mess up your water quality. I really can't suggest any other lighting for a 10 gallon tank except get another fixture and a compact UVB 5 fluorescent 5.0. Use both fixtures, one for heat and one for UVB. Please check out the care sheet for RES. This way you don't have to keep upgrading tanks and filters. You can save for it now and do it one time. An adult male RES will need a minimum of a 75 gallon tank and a female would need a minimum of 100 - 125 gallons. You'll also need a filter capable of filtering 2 - 3 times the amount of water in the tank. The ratings on filters are for fish not turtles. Another quick word of advise, don't buy anything including filters that are made just for turtles (except food). It's a gimmick. Glad you're here now you can learn what you need to. Welcome!
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:33 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

What if I were to keep the fixture at a distance? I'm not really wanting to send it back... I'm planning on upgrading the tank here in the near future. Either a 55 or a 75.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:47 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Hatchlings are easier to over heat, which is why MVBs are not recommended for small tanks. Using it at a distance will negate any useful warmth and UVB.

Which brand of MVB did you get?
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:19 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002AQDJ0

Is there any way at all I can use this without having to return this a buy another bulb of any sort? I really don't have the funds / time at this moment to have to buy a new one.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:49 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Well, keep it at a distance and only use sparingly under supervision. What about using a cheap compact fluorescent lamp until you complete the upgrades?
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:08 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Please link me what you're talking about? lol
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:47 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

ChangTang, I know its a lot to take in.. but it so so nice to see one of these Chinatown turtles getting proper care. Its awesome that you are doing the research! The 10 gallon setup looks nice :). you do need to remove the rocks BUT you can still use the gravel vac so it was worth buying :). Have you considered sand? Sand is extremely cheap (any playground sand at a home improvement store will work as long as you rinse it very well). You can use the gravel vac and hover it above the sand to clean it. Plus they are just nice for partial water changes in general.

As for the light, I dont know much about this but I am wondering if you cant set it further away but have some kind of aluminum barrier to reflect in back into the tank? I have no idea if this is a stupid suggestion.. I am just trying to find a way to make it work. I know how expensive these little guys are but the good news is that once they are all set up, its not expensive at all (unlike dogs and cats! )
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:32 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Thanks! We bought it with the intention of keeping it in that little plastic jail-cell, but after doing research we had no choice but to give this guy some luxury. I was planning on keeping the river rocks until he gets big enough to eat them. After that, I was planning on doing a barebottom or a calcium sand setup (or playsand). I already went to the local dried up stream, got some nice sized rocks and a slate piece and im thinking of getting rid of that styrofoam basking area and build him up a nice spot to catch some rays.
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:06 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

ChangTang wrote:Please link me what you're talking about? lol

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00101JI2Y
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:28 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

does that give off heat or uvb?
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:41 pm   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

UVA and UVB.
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:01 am   Re: Meet Chang! - 1.5" RES from ChinaTown + Questions!

Really? For 18 dollars? Should I purchase this and leave the powersun alone until I get a bigger tank? Or do with what i have?
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