Habitat - Indoor

If you have the heater, keep it on at night to keep them warm. Leaving a lamp on overnight will interfere with their sleep.

ataraxiamb wrote:If you have the heater, keep it on at night to keep them warm. Leaving a lamp on overnight will interfere with their sleep.

I agree with that interfere with there sleep pattern however when I first got my hatchlings res one of them came down with RI. he died last weekend. They told me the reason being was because the temps was getting to low inside the tank and the sudden change of temps got him sick and eventually died. The other two I have presently should signs of RI but seem to have gotten alittle better. They still bask almost all day but today I was surprise to see them both in the water

that's a good start. however they wont eat still but I was told if they are sick they wont eat. since one of them died they are giving me 3 more out of courtesy. I have 4weeks before my credit runs out to get them and that's why I am upgrading to a 55 from a 20l since theres gonna be 5 now. This is why I am stuck on the red heat or moonlight thing for them at night... The store were I got them states they need 12-14hrs of uva and uvb and the remaining time which will be at night use a red heat lamp or moonlight. also what do you think about this sunsun I found on ebay push 264gph which would be great for only 25 gallon of water in tank. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Genui ... 3cd0e167c0

I am new to this whole turtle stuff and love these animals and finally got them. Im just trying to do this right guys.

Most of the GPH ratings are not only when the canister is empty... but also with 0 head. So it's basically the raw rating of the pump.

I run a FX5 AND a XP4 at the same time on my 75 gallon tank. It's not too much flow rate and the filtration is great. Yes, either one of these filters is adequate to handle the 75g tank and the second filter is overkill but other than a little extra $ to power the second filter, you really cannot over filter your tank.

VeipaCray wrote:Most of the GPH ratings are not only when the canister is empty... but also with 0 head. So it's basically the raw rating of the pump.

I run a FX5 AND a XP4 at the same time on my 75 gallon tank. It's not too much flow rate and the filtration is great. Yes, either one of these filters is adequate to handle the 75g tank and the second filter is overkill but other than a little extra $ to power the second filter, you really cannot over filter your tank.

But will the sunsun hw302 be fine and maybe add another internal filter?...
adding sand to tank tonight just bought 40lbs worth.

You need a better heater for your tank then if the water isnt staying at a stable temp. Look into getting a higher setable watt heater to keep the water at a stable temp. If your worried about the water getting to cold while the ac is on in the same room, then you need to move the tank. Interference with their sleep pattern can cause other health issues that arent so curable. We arent trying to scare you. We are just speaking from experience and also from what others have found. Turts sleep in water at night on cool days cause it holds the heat. If the water is warm enough for them at night, and the basking area is warmer during the day the turts will be fine.

The Troops wrote:You need a better heater for your tank then if the water isnt staying at a stable temp. Look into getting a higher setable watt heater to keep the water at a stable temp. If your worried about the water getting to cold while the ac is on in the same room, then you need to move the tank. Interference with their sleep pattern can cause other health issues that arent so curable. We arent trying to scare you. We are just speaking from experience and also from what others have found. Turts sleep in water at night on cool days cause it holds the heat. If the water is warm enough for them at night, and the basking area is warmer during the day the turts will be fine.

will get a better heater then... what wattage.... also guys I really need to order my filter already... so would the sunsun hw302 be fine?

Having 5 turts in that tank you would need to jump up filtration. I'd step it up. Even if you fill the tank up 1/2 way (27.5g) your JUST at 3 times the filtering with that sunsun yor looking at. I'd say get something for 125g or more. IMHO, if your strapped for cash, go for at least the Penplax Cascade 1200. You can find them pretty cheap and I have experience with their 700 model. It works pretty good! Been running it myself for about 8 months and the person I got it from had it for awhile as well. (bought it used)

That SunSun is just to small for that many turts. The water quality wouldnt be that great for the little guys/gals.

Heater wise, get one that is made for up to 55g (will actually say on package) thats setable, fully submersible, and shatterproof. You should be fine. Before i had turtles i had fish for many years. The tank was in my bedroom and I had a window unit in my room too. Tank stayed at 76deg all summer and all winter. And my bedroom w as alwaysvat like 65 or less! And all I did was get a heater for up to 100g.

The Troops wrote:Having 5 turts in that tank you would need to jump up filtration. I'd step it up. Even if you fill the tank up 1/2 way (27.5g) your JUST at 3 times the filtering with that sunsun yor looking at. I'd say get something for 125g or more. IMHO, if your strapped for cash, go for at least the Penplax Cascade 1200. You can find them pretty cheap and I have experience with their 700 model. It works pretty good! Been running it myself for about 8 months and the person I got it from had it for awhile as well. (bought it used)

That SunSun is just to small for that many turts. The water quality wouldnt be that great for the little guys/gals.

Heater wise, get one that is made for up to 55g (will actually say on package) thats setable, fully submersible, and shatterproof. You should be fine. Before i had turtles i had fish for many years. The tank was in my bedroom and I had a window unit in my room too. Tank stayed at 76deg all summer and all winter. And my bedroom w as alwaysvat like 65 or less! And all I did was get a heater for up to 100g.

what about the Penn-Plax Cascade 700? wuld that be good? I read good stuff on sunsun.

I had the 700 in my 40 gal not much water flow not enough for a 40 gal and now sits in its box! Dont know anything about sunsun filters? But at this point anything is better than nothing at all!

Kansasslider wrote:I had the 700 in my 40 gal not much water flow not enough for a 40 gal and now sits in its box! Dont know anything about sunsun filters? But at this point anything is better than nothing at all!

alright so im down to 2 filters to chose from either Penn-Plax Cascade 700 or sunsun hw302

http://www.amazon.com/Penn-Plax-Cascade ... B0002DJ9GQ

vs

http://www.amazon.com/SunSun-HW-302-3-S ... rds=sunsun

gami892 wrote:
Kansasslider wrote:I had the 700 in my 40 gal not much water flow not enough for a 40 gal and now sits in its box! Dont know anything about sunsun filters? But at this point anything is better than nothing at all!

alright so im down to 2 filters to chose from either Penn-Plax Cascade 700 or sunsun hw302

http://www.amazon.com/Penn-Plax-Cascade ... B0002DJ9GQ

vs

http://www.amazon.com/SunSun-HW-302-3-S ... rds=sunsun

also I added water to tank last night with sand and only am using 20gal of water in a 55

Dont do the 700 its weak! Ask this person what they think of the sunsun.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34484&p=327790#p327790

As Kansas said, the 700 wouldnt do much, or anything at all for that tank. It's to weak for that many gallons and number of turts! The 700 is on my 30g tank (1/2 way filled up) and is only used if I need to separate a turt for a bit. It'll work for up to 50 fish gallons, but not turtle gallons. IMHO it's probably good for MAYBE 15-20 single turtle gallons. I only used it a handful of times and dumped the water out after they where in there.

The Troops wrote:As Kansas said, the 700 wouldnt do much, or anything at all for that tank. It's to weak for that many gallons and number of turts! The 700 is on my 30g tank (1/2 way filled up) and is only used if I need to separate a turt for a bit. It'll work for up to 50 fish gallons, but not turtle gallons. IMHO it's probably good for MAYBE 15-20 single turtle gallons. I only used it a handful of times and dumped the water out after they where in there.

what about fluval 305
http://www.amazon.com/Fluval-305-Extern ... B000Q98264

let me know I can get it at petco for 100.00.. need to filter out water asap before putting turtles in tank

What about the Rena XP3?

Habitat - Indoor :: Upgrading to a 55 Gallon tank Need help with setup.

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