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Post Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:13 pm   Tank Cycling Question

I have a 70 gallon tank. I clean about 20% of the water every other week. I do a full filter change on my main filter about once every 6 months with some minor filter cleaning at times in between. I also have a small filter running. I clean that fully about once a month. I never had a cycling issue in the last 6-7 years using that method.

About 6 weeks ago I did a full filter change but kept the small one going. All was fine for about 4 weeks. Then I suddenly started seeing the type of foggy water I've seen in the past when a tank is cycling. It doesn't seem to want to improve even after 2 weeks.

1. About how long does the foggy water last in a normal cycling period?

2. Should I do some partial water changes or will that just slow the process?

3. I am adding some water treatment to deal with potential ammonia issues. Is that OK?

4. Why would the cycle take 4 weeks to blow up like that after the full filter change (shouldn't it happen almost immediately) and why would it happen this time and never before?

5. Could something else be going on?

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:18 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Did you do a water test?
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:56 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

You interrupted a cycled tank and need to start over
. If you don't have fish people on here say its ok. I'm not so sure but you don't have much of a choice if I got all your info correct? No water treatment! You need to buy a test kit!
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:03 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Why is this the first time it happened though?

I've been doing the same thing for years with no issues. I just tested the ammonia level and it was fine.

"No water treatment! "

I use a standard water conditioner to remove chlorine etc... when I do water changes. That would also remove excess ammonia etc...
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:37 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

We don't use chlorine remover because it can harm your turtlle.Just let your tank go through its cycle. The water should clear up. Do you have carbon in your filters?
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:37 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Yes. I have carbon in the main filter. It's a large Rena Filstar and has always done a great job.
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:00 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

If it's an issue of a mini-cycle, the water should clear in a few days. If it's still there and you aren't seeing ammonia or nitrite, then something else may be going on.

I've never seen the cloudiness as part of a cycle. I've also never seen algae in the water column, though I've seen and fought many forms of algae.

What tint does the cloudiness give to the water? From what I understand, a cycle cloudiness is more white, whereas algae is more green.
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Post Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:05 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

I agree l. I think it will just clear up. I have had tanks get cloudy but just for s few days at most.
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Post Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:47 pm   Re: Tank Cycling Question

It's a white cloudiness, but it's going on 2 weeks now.

I've had issues like this in other tanks that lasted quite awhile, but those were cycling from scratch. This one already had 70 gallons of cycled water and a smaller filter that should have helped.
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:11 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Is there any smell?
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:10 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

No smell. It's pretty cloudy in there, but I'm reluctant to do a partial water change because I might just slow down the process.
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Post Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:03 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Was the carbon replaced during the last cleaning and was the cloudiness there from the beginning?
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:25 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

"Was the carbon replaced during the last cleaning and was the cloudiness there from the beginning?"

The carbon was replaced. The cloudiness started a couple of weeks AFTER the full filter cleaning. My memory is vague but it may have begun after the first partial water change following the filer clean.

By the way, it's still no better.

Should I do a small partial water change?
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:37 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

Do you have a water test kit? If not I suggest you get one and test your water to try and get a better grip on what's going on. I still think its just cycling. When you say a complete filter cleaning, how are you cleaning everything? You might find this article help full.
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/how-to-cy ... r-aquarium
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:06 am   Re: Tank Cycling Question

I've been testing for ammonia and it's been fine.

Usually when I do a cleaning I just pour out excess accumulated waste and change the carbon. But once things accumulate past a certain point, I do a thorough cleaning. I don't often do a complete filter change like that, but when I do that means rinsing and cleaning the entire physical filter and all media. That's what I did this time.
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