General Care Discussion :: Brown Patches on Shell - Dirt Stain or Shell Rot?

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:24 pm   Brown Patches on Shell - Dirt Stain or Shell Rot?

Hi all,

I am worried about the shells of my 2 young red eared sliders. They have brownish spots on their shell (carapace), which never used to be there. One of them (Slider B) has also turned light green. I'm not sure if this is normal, shedding, dirt stain or beginning stages of shell rot. I cleaned them today with a new soft toothbrush but nothing seemed to come off. Slider B also seems to be a just a little bit bigger than Slider A, and more active and hungry. There are no white spots on them, at least as far as I can tell. Below are the pictures of them. They have a little bit of brownish stain at their underside (plastron) but I don't have pictures of that yet. I haven't managed to take pictures of their carapace when dry now as I'm trying to reduce handling as much as possible. Please let me know if this is necessary and I'll try to post them asap.

Slider A Jan 2016
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Slider A Sept 2015
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Slider B Jan 2016
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Slider B Sept 2015
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Below is some background information.

I acquired 2 baby red-eared sliders (shell length approx 1.5 inch) in August 2015. I kept them in a tank that's large enough for 2 babies (22 inch long by 10 inch water depth) with a basking dock and filter. I did not have a UVA/UVB light then. I don't have a water heater as well as I live in a country where room temperature is 26-27 degrees celsius (~80F). I fed them nutrafin pellets, approx 5 pellets each per day everyday then increased to 7 pellets each. Once a week or once a fortnight, I give them 2 pieces of freeze dried river shrimp and mealworms from Fluker's Aquatic Turtle Medley Treat Food. They have been healthy all along, normal behaviour, normal eating, normal coloration. I changed the water approx once in 2 weeks.

The above set-up I described is a tank in my university dormitory. For a month-long break in December, I moved back home and created a temporary set up as I couldn't transport my tank back. The set-up isn't ideal - it's a bit smaller and more shallow with no filter, but it has a basking dock. I change water once every 3-4 days. They took about a week to get used to the new set-up, and the transportation from my university to home stressed them out quite a bit. Now they're comfortable and respond well to me and to food. Recently I've been introducing some romaine lettuce, carrots, small bits of papaya into their diet. For the past 3 weeks, I got a UVA heat lamp then switched it to an Exo Terra Reptile UVB Compact Lamp today (as they had been out of stock at local pet stores). The shells of my sliders are currently slightly under 2 inches long.

I understand that both set-ups have not been ideal. Once I move back to my university (this Saturday!), they will be back in their big tank with the UVB light installed and with a proper filter.

Could anyone advise me on the problem my sliders have? I would appreciate any opinion on this!
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:31 pm   Re: Brown Patches on Shell - Dirt Stain or Shell Rot?

It looks normal. It could look "thick" if the turtles are growing too fast. I would continue to make changes to their diet and habitat.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:42 pm   Re: Brown Patches on Shell - Dirt Stain or Shell Rot?

Hey Steve,

Thanks for the reply! What changes would you recommend I make to their diet and habitat? Is growing too fast an issue - do I have to cut down on their food? I read that young sliders have to have a higher intake of commercial pellets and protein than vegetables, so I haven't been feeding them vegetables. Their staples are currently normal Reptomin pellets which comprise approx 90% of their diet.

Also, what are some possible reasons why Slider B changed colour so drastically within 4 months, while Slider A (which I acquired at the same time, around the same age, living in same environment) retains its dark green colour?
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Post Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:54 pm   Re: Brown Patches on Shell - Dirt Stain or Shell Rot?

Keep the shrimp, mealworms and Fluker's as rare treats. Reptomin is OK, but look into Mazuri and Omega One as they are better. I also add some Hikari wheat-germ koi pellets into the mix. You can always try veggies, just keep trying and they will take to it.

Growing too fast causes premature sexual maturity and premature organ failure.

I'm not sure as to the exact cause of discoloration. I've seen a few "pale" RES from Indonesia, I wonder if there's a geographic factor.
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