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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:44 am   Urgent......... Plzzzzzz helppppppppp

I just got 2 red eared sliders a couple of days back.. Their names are Pebbles and Bubbles.. Bubbles is very active n keeps running round the tank the whole day, n hides immediately if smeone comes too close.. I feedthem stickies n he eats them properly..

However, my main worry is Pebbles.. He was fine the day i got him.. But since the past 2 days, he just sits on the rock in the tank n keeps sleeping.. He does not respond.. He moves his legs when i take him in my hand.. He DOES NOT even eatanything.. If I put him in water, he keeps floating for a while n then goes back to the rock, n dozes off..

IS somethin wrong with him??? I am really worried.. I dont want him to die.. Someone PLZZZZZZZZ help...
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:30 am   

do you have a uvab light set up? let them get adjusted to their new home they might still be trippin... cute names.
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:36 am   

Thanks.. No i dont have.. Can u plz describe the lights ..
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:35 am   

It sounds like he could have a respiratory infection. You need to get him to a vet as soon as you can. If you could answer these questions also it would be helpful:


How big is your turtle?
How long have you had it?

What is the water temperature?
Are you using a water heater?
How much water is in there?
Are you using a water conditioner?
Are you using any filtration?

What is the basking temperature?
Is there a basking light?
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on?
What kind is it or what is it made out of?
Is there a UVB light?

What have you been trying to feed it?
When was the last time your turtle ate?

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure?
Is the tank near a window?
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity?

Have you read the Basic Care section?
Have you searched the forums for similar situations?

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms?
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:42 am   Thanx for replyin..

How big is your turtle? 1.5 inches
How long have you had it? 4 days

What is the water temperature? 80-90 F
Are you using a water heater? No, but am gonna buy one today
How much water is in there? Dont know, but sufficient for 2 of them
Are you using a water conditioner? No
Are you using any filtration? No

What is the basking temperature? No basking
Is there a basking light? No
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on? No
What kind is it or what is it made out of? NA
Is there a UVB light? Buying one today

What have you been trying to feed it? Turtle food Sticks
When was the last time your turtle ate? Not till today, atleast not in front of me

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure? 1 ft x .25 ft
Is the tank near a window? No
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity? No

Have you read the Basic Care section? Yes
Have you searched the forums for similar situations? Yes

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms? Pebbles is just too lethargic.. He just keeps sleeping, no matter what you do. He rarely opens his eyes. I think they might be swollen.. Plz help.......
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:09 am   One more thing

i just noticed that Pebbles cannot open one of his eyes and opens the other with a lot of diffiiculty.. He tries to rub his eyes with his paws.. I think he's not able to see properly.. Wat can I Do??? Cant let him starve n die :-(
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:43 am   

Your water temp is too high if it's up to 90. Try to keep it at 82.

With all those symptoms, it really sounds like RI. The only chance your turtle will have to live if it has RI is to get it to a vet. Make sure it's a vet that handles turtles though, a herp vet.

Your turtles need a basking platform and a heat lamp too. The UVB light won't do a thing until they have it. They need to be able to get completely out of the water and dry off or they will get shell rot. The heat and UVB also helps them metabolize their food, process calcium, etc...

Try feeding him other things too, like earthworms or mealworms. Something that's alive and wiggly and gets his attention. Also are you giving him baby food sticks or the big food sticks? If you're giving him the big ones, break them up so they are smaller.

It also sounds like the tank you have them in is REALLY small. A gauge to go by is 10gallons per inche of turtle. Your turtles could eventually grow to be 12" long each (if they are both female) and would require a 240 gallon tank.
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:25 pm   

If you read the basic care section of this website then you already know that the water temperature is too high and that the tank is much too small. That's just for starters. A UVB lamp is vital for the proper growth and health the your turtles. The water must also be deep enough for them to swim freely since RES are aquatic turtles. It's good that you have already read about the RES basic care. Now please read the sections on Basic RES Info, General Issues, Nutrition, Habitat, Water Quality, Lighting & Basking and Health.

Red Eared Sliders are very demanding and delicate animals to take care of. Sadly, the people who sell these wonderful turtles usually do not know much about them and will mislead or lie to get you to buy them. They obviously don't care the least bit about the animal itself, or for the new owner. Too many people are led to believe that they are just cute little animals that you can throw in a little plastic tub of water with a few food pellets and that's it. Only to be heartbroken when the babies that they've fallen in love with get sick and die.

It's not really your fault and it's a good thing that you are now doing some research to save your sick turtle. Unfortunately, it sounds like it may be very difficult to find a good veterinarian in India who can or is willing to treat turtles since they are illegal there. I hope you are able to correct their habitat conditions and find someone who can give your sick turtle the proper medical treatment.

Your other turtle, Bubbles, sounds like he is doing well for now. Baby turtles are very shy and cautious. Especially during the first week or two after you bring them home, they will be afraid of you or anything else that moves. Try not to handle them too much during this time since it will cause a lot of stress and could make them even sicker. Actually, you shouldn't hand a baby RES too much anyway.

That's very good that Bubbles is eating.
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:53 am   Thanx for replyin..

I just got both of them a few days back.. Bubbles is very hyperactive..

Its Pebbles I am worried about.. Today mornin, I just noticed white spots near his head n limbs.. His eyes seem to be swollen.. He does not repond, jus stretch his neck n limbs once in a while.. He has not eaten since 4 days now..

As I stay in India, its very difficult to find herp vets.. So I really dont knw wat to do..

Am gonna get the UV light, heater n thermometer as soon as I reach home today..

I dont wanna lose Pebbles.. Someone PLZZZZZZZZZZ help.. :-(
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:08 am   

well there's nothing you can do unless you get him to a vet
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:12 am   

But I shud find a vet right??? There is no one here tht i knw of..
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:14 am   

There's another thread going on right now from someone else in India - in Bombay. I think this other person ("the mushroom") is going to ask the vet about baytril injections. Can you communicate with this person - you can send private messages via the forum - and see if maybe you do the same thing? I have no idea if Mumbai is in the same part of the country as Bombay but maybe at least if you all work together you can figure out a way to help each other. If you don't know how to send private messages, let me know.

Here's the other thread:

http://www.redearslider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9462
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:19 am   hi

Hello.. Bombay and Mumbai are the same place.. Bombay was the former name of MUMBAI..
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:39 am   

That works out great kshroff. Were you able to get ahold of "the mushroom"? The sooner the better, sounds like Pebbles is in desperate need of those antibiotics.

Have u tried dipping a pellet in some tuna juice to try and get Pebbles to eat? That makes it more smelly and apetizing.

Were you able to get a basking place for them to dry off on? This is very important to both of them.

Good luck! I hope Pebbles pulls through this.
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:30 am   

You also probably don't need the water heater since it is so warm where you live.
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