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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:51 am   Concerned About Overall Health of RES

I'm sorry if it seems offtopic at first but I feel that the more information I give, the easier it will be for someone to help me. Some of the previous conditions and then following events may have caused him stress... I'm new to owning turtles, by the way. I may just be paranoid, seeing all these possible health issues, but better safe than sorry.

Recently, around three weeks ago (judging by my join date, I would say the 18th of February this year) my mother found an RES hatchling on the beach. It was actually on the steps leading to the beach and we suspect someone could have abandoned the turtle there, knowing someone would find it. There's no way for a turtle to get up there on it's own. Not only that, but the nearest fresh water source is a good mile away from there. My mom calls me telling me about the turtle and asking if I wanted to keep it. I really have no idea how it came to her decision to that. I love all animals and can't turn them down, my mom knows that. We would be overrun with pets if my influence were strong enough (it almost is. XP) We took the RES hatchling home in a small plastic container with a little water in it. I have changed the tank four times and it's only been three weeks, which is why I fear for stress on the turtle. The first two setups were very inadequate, it was before I fully realized what an ideal system for the turtle would be (this was after research :P). The first two setups I had focused on the basking rather than swimming, so little swimming space was provided... (a small bin filled with water and rocks around it, I had a basking lamp on during the day), the two setups combined for probably four day, maybe three. Then I facepalmed and filled the ten gallon tank with water, my mom put the needed chemicals or whatever in there (to take out chlorine I think) and I had a big rock he could slide right onto without too much effort and I have done just as I have seen. I started focusing on mimicking daylight hours with the lamp and set up the water heater and whatnot. Some days though when my mom wasn't home and I was at school he went without the lamp on... I would turn it on when I get home but that's really late and my mom is away on Fridays and sometimes other unpredictable times during the week. Would it be really bad if my turtle sometimes went most of the day without the basking lamp on? I'm scared it's dire and I need to know if I have to strive to convince my mom that he needs the lamp on. (She's just scared of housefire when she's not home).

So I changed his tank again recently, hmm two days ago. We finally got around to taking out the 55 gallon tank and set it up and put him in it (oh forgot to mention that I have three neon tetras in the tank with him along with one glo-tetra. I don't know if this makes a difference. When I talked to this pet store lady she said adding fish could cause an ammonia spike, though we added ammonia remover or something to the water each time we cleaned the tank. I've had the fish with him for almost two weeks now, I think. Huh, time flies fast.)

Down to the main issue now. Along with my concerns of underbasking and stress, there are some other things I'm wondering about. I've done my best to research but never came up with a straight answer, really.
At first he was scared of me and would going into his emo corner when he saw me (well he still does that just less often now with the new tank) He seems to be getting used to me now and yesterday (Note: his tank is in my room, he doesn't bask while I'm in the room (I've caught him basking upon slowly entering the room so on days I know he didn't have the chance to bask I stay out of the room and when he has basked while I was at school. I just am quiet and I try to not make any too sudden movement while in the room and interacting with him. I know he watches me because when he slowly creeps to the surface at first I would get excited and sit up to see him better and he would dive down back in the water into his emo corner)) so while he used to stay in his emo corner while I'm in the room, he has started swimming a lot more when I'm there and its sooo cute but the problem is that yesterday I was taking pictures of him from my bed, so he didn't know and wasn't disturbed and luckily my camera has great zoom, but I saw he was doing something weird I hadn't seen him do before. He was sticking to the surface and seemed to be gulping air or something. With his head barely poked above the surface, his neck was inflating a lot like a bullfrog XP and then a few times when he would go underwater he would blow bubbles and he had bubbles all over him. He did it for a long time and I think he's doing it now. He just staying at the surface. I read things about respiratory problems but it said only on land. I barely see him on the and when I do I haven't seen him blow bubbles. It just seems kinda off and it has me concerned. :/ I don't know if it's normal. Though I haven't had too much experience with watching turtles swim, his swimming seems pretty even.

What prompted me to post this was when I was watching him and realized that the coloring, between what I believe is called scutes on the upper part of his shell, was off. Some research on it made me very unsure and that's why I'm posting it here. When I first got my turtle he had black between the scutes and now it's a light pink sort of color.

Answers to the prompted questions:
How big is your turtle? My turtle's shell is a little over and inch, though under an inch and a half.
How long have you had it? I've had the turtle for almost three weeks come Saturday.

What is the water temperature?Water temperature stays at 80F. I use a water heater and thermometer. I'm not entirely sure on the amount of water in the tank. It's a 55 gallon tank, not quite fully filled but close to it (I would have to lower the water line if the turtle was bigger). I am using a water conditioner and also a good filter. I'm not sure about basking temperature... I'm using a 75watt "basking bulb" the brand is Critter Culture. :/ I'm not sure what the heck it is, not label of UVB or anything. It's all they had at the store and I live in the middle of nowhere so I have to wait until I have time to go an hour away to the nearest pet store: petsmart. Unless this IS a UVB? Seems kinda sketchy to me. It gives off a real good amount of heat (enough to entice basking) and yes the basking platform is easy for my turtle to climb on.
I've been feeding him ReptoMin pellets (and sometimes, usually, he eats the fish food, TetraMin >.> then he begs for more and gives up fast and goes to his emo corner. I make sure to not overfeed him. Usually when he goes to the emocorner is when I feed the fishies so they eat their food before he gets there. XD) My turtle ate just a few hours ago.

His tank is 55 gallon. It's not near the window (should it be?) and the room is basically empty except for me and my dog who only is in at night and has no interest in the turtle. The turtle's tank is on a high stand so the dog cant even really see the turtle.

I did read the basic care section as well as a lot of others. I did research on this but never found definite answers. I may just fail at research...
There is nothing else that seems abnormal to me.

To sum it up I'm worried about possible underbasking, him blowing bubbles(??)/staying near surface more often (sleeping inside log thing that floats), and the change in his shell.

Below are pictures including one after I first got him and one that I took today:

This was the best picture I could find of his shell around when I first got him.
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This is a current picture. I took it today, to show the shell better. I tried different angles but my camera didn't want to focus for some reason. :P
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Best picture I could find of his belly. Dunno if it helps or not.
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Shows his shell underwater and the bubbles
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Up close of the bubbles on him
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:34 am   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

Well first try to get your mom to keep that heat lamp on. Besides water that heat lamp in my opinion is the second most important thing for a turtles habitat. The fish being the tank are fine. Just chance they get eaten once your little guy gets bigger

The bubbles and breathing seem normal the way you described and the bulb does not give off uvb so youvstill need that. Now the coloring issue. Its normal. It is just new growth, usually it will be slightly pink or light gray and then hardens to the normal color.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:52 am   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

Thank you!! I'm so relieved. I guess reading about all the diseases turtles can get, and how hatchlings are more susceptible to them, got me a little paranoid. Though yes, I do realize he needs the lamp... what sort diseases could a turtle get from lack of basking, even for just during the day every now and then? I need to tell my mom but I can't find anything that specific because I don't think she'll listen to me, otherwise.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:17 pm   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

The main thing would be shell rot and fungus has greater chance to occur. The bacteria/fungus thrives on moisture. When a turtle basks it completely drys out eliminating the moisture it needs to survive and spread. That why when a turtle gets a fungus or shell rot. It common practice for them to be dry docked so the moisture the bacteria or fungus needs isnt there.

Besides that, it just helps him to regulate their body temps if their feeling cool. Main thing with hatchling staying healthing is warmth. If he want that extra warmth he can get it.

I will add this in, As bulb starting on fire, is basically non existent. It was made to stay on and tested for hours of use. The cause of a lighting fire is not actually caused by the light itself, its more a bulb put in bigger then recommended was used causing to much heat or something got caught on the light. It not something you should have to worry about at all. Actually id worry more about the fish tank heater then anything else lol. Many weird storys come up with them.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:26 pm   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

Thanks again!! I'll let her know. ^.^
Also.. O.o what kind of weird stories?
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:56 pm   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

ScarletIbis wrote:Thanks again!! I'll let her know. ^.^
Also.. O.o what kind of weird stories?

Lots of storys of them breaking into pieces or glass cracking. One caused an electric current in the water after it broke. There is a story with pictures of one that blew out the side of the tank. Company recalled them. One where it didnt stop heating the water. Just to name some storys that i can think of off the top of my head ive seen. Never any horror lightbulb storys ever posted that i can remember.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:34 pm   Re: Concerned About Overall Health of RES

Use a GFCI outlet: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29049
Use a surge protector.
Use a timer to turn on/off the light.

If you want to use a safer bulb, look into splash-proof bulbs, like the turtle tuff or outdoor use halogens.

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