Urgent Care :: I think one of my turtles has passed away...

[xsavingsaturdayx]

guys, lets not give Kai a hard time here. if he/she 's unable to go to the vet for any reason then we should not push him/her. we should be supportive in anyway we can, and by saying "i would eat ramen noodles for a week and drink tap water if it meant getting my RES to a vet in a time of need" doesn't really help except make Kai feel worse. i just took my turlte to the vet about a few weeks ago, and frankly, i think if a turtle is meant to live then it's meant to live, provided that you give reasonable care. for those of you who think we should take a turtle to the vet despite the financial situation, i would suggest you to think in a rational way. i mean i love my turtle and i would provide her with whatever she needs as long as i am able to, but a turtle is a turtle. they are not en-dangered species. however on another note, for those of you who are considering getting a turtle as a pet, think twice before you actually get one.

The reason we try so hard in trying to convince someone to take theyre sick animal to a vet is because,after all..its a living creature that feels pain.No animal should die just because theyre owner couldnt spend 100$ to save its life.. But in this case money wasnt the problem with kai,her parents thought that taking a turtle to a vet was a waste of money.We all gave her different options that she could try,but instead she went back to the store and gave back the 3 turtles that were sick and got 3 brand new ones....she basicly ditched them and left them to die..


http://www.redearslider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7431

[kc]

o, i didn't get that story. i didn't know that was the case. if that's the case, then i have nothing else to say. thanks for the update.

p.s. i don't think the pet store will take good care of the turtle. i've been to some of the pet stores and the condition where they keep their turtles is horrible. i mean they do get the turtle pretty cheap.

[xsavingsaturdayx]

o, i didn't get that story. i didn't know that was the case. if that's the case, then i have nothing else to say. thanks for the update.

p.s. i don't think the pet store will take good care of the turtle. i've been to some of the pet stores and the condition where they keep their turtles is horrible. i mean they do get the turtle pretty cheap.

Yeah i know..and she even said herself that she cant take them back to the store because they have them in bad conditons (someone suggested taking them back)..i dont think a pet store that has turtles in "bad conditions" would take them to a vet.

[SpotsMama]

I'm going to pipe up and remind you that Kai (who is a guy) is only 14. He only had the original turtles a total of three days. The first one died on day two, I believe. The pet shop obviously sold him (or rather his parents) some sick turtles - they never did act normal and one of them had an abcess on the back of the neck. I do not think it would have been right for the shop to avoid responsibility. The shop owner appeared to be concerned, said she'd treat the turtles, and Kai saw her put them in a separate tank and put some sort of medication in the water.

Was it going to be sufficient to save the remaining turtles? Probably not. But I'm inclined to give Kai the benefit of the doubt - a lot of credit, in fact - for making a good faith effort to do right by the turtles. So far as he knew - could have known - he did exactly the right, responsible thing.

As for the three new (apparently healthy) turtles, I agree it wasn't wise for him to take three. One is a handful, as we with more experience come to know. But come-on, he's only 14 and has only had about three days experience with turtles. He was obviously very excited about them and in his previous posts was really making quite an effort to make sure the setup was exactly right. That's really hard to do for someone with no experience, who is only 14, and who has no support from the parents. How could he possibly know that it would mean such a huge committment in the long term to take three of them?

Who knows, he seemed to be a pretty determined guy. Maybe he can make it work. Or, maybe he had enough discouraging feedback on here that he'll return them all and never try to have a turtle again for the rest of his life.

Sorry for ventilating! I just really felt for the guy when he seemed to be trying so hard and having such bad luck. If it had been you or me, we should be judged by different standards. But I was impressed with him under the circumstances.

[xsavingsaturdayx]

I'm going to pipe up and remind you that Kai (who is a guy) is only 14. He only had the original turtles a total of three days. The first one died on day two, I believe. The pet shop obviously sold him (or rather his parents) some sick turtles - they never did act normal and one of them had an abcess on the back of the neck. I do not think it would have been right for the shop to avoid responsibility. The shop owner appeared to be concerned, said she'd treat the turtles, and Kai saw her put them in a separate tank and put some sort of medication in the water.

Was it going to be sufficient to save the remaining turtles? Probably not. But I'm inclined to give Kai the benefit of the doubt - a lot of credit, in fact - for making a good faith effort to do right by the turtles. So far as he knew - could have known - he did exactly the right, responsible thing.

As for the three new (apparently healthy) turtles, I agree it wasn't wise for him to take three. One is a handful, as we with more experience come to know. But come-on, he's only 14 and has only had about three days experience with turtles. He was obviously very excited about them and in his previous posts was really making quite an effort to make sure the setup was exactly right. That's really hard to do for someone with no experience, who is only 14, and who has no support from the parents. How could he possibly know that it would mean such a huge committment in the long term to take three of them?

Who knows, he seemed to be a pretty determined guy. Maybe he can make it work. Or, maybe he had enough discouraging feedback on here that he'll return them all and never try to have a turtle again for the rest of his life.

Sorry for ventilating! I just really felt for the guy when he seemed to be trying so hard and having such bad luck. If it had been you or me, we should be judged by different standards. But I was impressed with him under the circumstances.

I felt sorry for him too,im only two years older than him and at first it was hell,heck i had to get a job to get them to a vet when mine were ill!

14 is a young age and i agree he did seem realy concerned but i think he still could have tried other options.It just got me angry when he said that he returned them back for 3 healthy ones,he is young but i think hes old enough to have common sense.

I just hope those turtles stay healthy until he's 18,that way his parents cant tell him what to do.

[SpotsMama]

xsavingssaturdayx said:

"I just hope those turtles stay healthy until he's 18,that way his parents cant tell him what to do."

Amen!

Can't resist one more comment. Did you notice how Kai joined the forum a couple of weeks before he ever got his turtles? He spent the time before he got the turtles researching and buying equipment. He had a tight budget but managed to put together a pretty good setup. I thought that was great! How many of us did the research BEFORE we got our turtles?? Not Me!

Now I'm done with this subject and won't harrange any more!

[da sAUCE!]

hmm...good points. good points. Kai, sorry I judged you so quickly. Better luck next time, mate.

[Hoooneylynn]

Kc- No one is giving Kai a hard time. They are telling her like it is and I totally agree with everyone. If you cant afford the expenses, you shouldnt have a turt. And for your statement kc "a turtle is a turtle", insinuating that they arent that important? It doesnt matter if they suffer because they are JUST turtles? If you have that attitude, YOU SHOULDNT OWN A TURT EITHER!


and- "i would eat ramen noodles for a week and drink tap water if it meant getting my RES to a vet in a time of need" I have made a similar statement before. Some people say they just cant do it. WRONG. There are ways to get money to take your suffering turt to the vet. End of story.

[airgetsthinner]

guys, lets not give Kai a hard time here. if he/she 's unable to go to the vet for any reason then we should not push him/her. we should be supportive in anyway we can, and by saying "i would eat ramen noodles for a week and drink tap water if it meant getting my RES to a vet in a time of need" doesn't really help except make Kai feel worse. i just took my turlte to the vet about a few weeks ago, and frankly, i think if a turtle is meant to live then it's meant to live, provided that you give reasonable care. for those of you who think we should take a turtle to the vet despite the financial situation, i would suggest you to think in a rational way. i mean i love my turtle and i would provide her with whatever she needs as long as i am able to, but a turtle is a turtle. they are not en-dangered species. however on another note, for those of you who are considering getting a turtle as a pet, think twice before you actually get one.

i completely agree with this, i took my 2 turtles to the vet on jan 3rd. gave them medicine for 2 striaght weeks for ri. ted is doing jsut fine, but now bill is not eating and legthargic, sometimes animals and even people jsut cant fight sicknesses off. and it obviously isnt this kids fault that he got sick turtles its just the luck of the draw. even though a lot of people have helped me on this website, just as many have been rude to me and other people, i dont think its very fair. and jsut because some people dont know the financial part of turtle care, doesnt mean you can give them a hard time about throwing down 100 bucks a turtle for a vet visit, when the turtle should have been properly cared for by the distributor. my vet visit cost 350$. it sucked putting that money down but i had it there, some people just dont, so stop picking on people because they dont have a crap load of money laying around, i dont know if any of you have realized this but most of america is populated by middle and lower class people.