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Post Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:12 am   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

A few comments:

First, don't panic.

The fact that you've only had your aquarium set up two weeks and you are reading nitrate is a good thing. Google "aquarium nitrogen cycle" for lots of info, but your tank is still cycling. Your turtle excretes ammonia (urea actually, but for the nitrogen cycle it's the same thing). Your turtle is drinking the water it's swimming in. Ammonia is bad, but not to the point where he's going to die with those readings.

In an aquarium, bacteria from the environment start eating that ammonia and converting it to nitrite. Nitrite is bad too, but there other bacteria that convert the nitrite to nitrate. Nitrate is not good, but nowhere near as concerning as ammonia or nitrite.

You have nitrate readings. Unless you have nitrate readings in your tap water, that means you have both bacterial colonies active. That's a good thing. They will take time to catch up, but unless your filter is really undersized, they will catch up.

Once they do, your ammonia and nitrite readings should be zero. There isn't really any appreciable bacteria that will get rid of your nitrate. That's what water changes do.

You're two weeks in and you have nitrate. It took me over six weeks when I started.

I also wouldn't worry about the ph. It is high, but my tap water varies between 7.8 and 8.2. Our turtle is fine.

I would recommend carbon. Is not going to help with ammonia or nitrite, but it will help with other trace elements that are unhealthy. Carbon in the pre-packaged cartridges is expensive, but you can but bulk carbon. I got a $17 bag of bulk carbon this spring that's going to easily last me into next year, and I'm using it for a turtle tank and another fish only aquarium.

EDIT: and in terms of carbon clouding the water, before you put it in the filter, rinse it under the tap until the water flows clear. I've never had an issue with carbon clouding the water after doing that.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:42 am   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

The only thing I would add to what ljapa has said is that with the ammonia/nitrite levels you've got more frequent water changes are in order until the bacteria in your bio filter get control of matters. The ammonia and nitrite levels you've got aren't going to kill your turtles, they're pretty hardy animals after all, still that level of ammonia in the water is not good and you can reduce it easily by changing water. Even 10-15% every day or two will bring it down significantly.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:45 am   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

Thank you all very much. I will keep up with the water changes and test the water every couple of days. Ijapa where do you get your bulk carbon from and what do you use to hold it in your filter? also what other kind of media do you have in your filter?
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:41 am   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

talal wrote:Thank you all very much. I will keep up with the water changes and test the water every couple of days. Ijapa where do you get your bulk carbon from and what do you use to hold it in your filter? also what other kind of media do you have in your filter?


You can buy media bags. I'm using a bag of Dr Foster and Smiths bulk carbon. They also sell media bags, but I already had some from my LFS. I've used seachem matrix bulk carbon (pricey for bulk carbon), and marineland. All of it worked fine. The neighbor across the street hates API carbon because he says he had to wash forever until it was clean.

I only ordered the carbon I did because I was ordering other things from them. I got their large bag of pelleted carbon

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... atid=23742

I change my carbon monthly and use the media recommendation in the thread by VeipaCrey

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30145

I also converted my python with his inline carbon filter recommendation. Now I do not need to treat the water when I change it

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33171
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Post Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:10 pm   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

I tested the water right out of my tap and it had the exact same readings as what i tested out of my tank, so either the API testing kit isn't accurate or my tap water contains all nitate, nitrite and ammonia. So I am going to order some carbon and filter my water through it before adding it to the tank.

Went to the vet on saturday, she was knowledgeable about all the infections and stuff but at the same time she said stupid things like i should only feed them in my tank and not a seperate container ( assuming that i didnt have water in the container ) so she didnt know that sliders cant eat if they arent in water. Plus she said that i should feed them as much as they can eat and i should only feed them shrimp and lots of protein which is again stupid. Although she told me to feed them vegies rich with vitamin A. Anyway the vet visit was free so no worries but she did weigh them and check their eyes and checked them for mucus and said that they are really active and seem to have no issues at all.
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Post Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:09 pm   Re: Hatchlings open and close their mouth underwater

when skipper does that i say she is yawning.
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