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Post Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:41 pm   washed out spot

How big is your turtle? About 4 in
How long have you had it? Since 2003

What is the water temperature? 72
Did you use a thermometer? yes
Are you using a water heater? yes
How much water is in there? About 26 gallons
Are you using a water conditioner? yes
Are you using any filtration? No, filter broke, doing weekly changes

What is the basking temperature? 80ish
Is there a basking light? yes
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on? yes
What kind is it or what is it made out of? Cork
Is there a UVB light? yes

What have you been trying to feed it? Reptomin turtle food pellets as well as grammare menu
When was the last time your turtle ate? This morning

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure? 29 long
Is the tank near a window? no
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity? no

Ok, my mother brought home these adorable little RES back in the summer of 2003 because they reminded her of her beloved childhood pet. Claiming authority on the subject, she has made the majority of decisions in their care. I left it up to her, only following orders when she asked for help. One is about 6inches long, and the smaller is closer to 4in. Both have great appetites, and they’ve never shown signs that anything was wrong. Recently, I acquired a Missippi Map of my own and started researching their care and how it might differ from the sliders. It was at this point that I realized Mom was GROSSLY under informed! Up until this summer, they were without UV lighting and had no basking area (only a floating log they could hang on to). Their tank was not kept at a steady temp, and the tank was only about half full of water. Shocked and amazed that our pets have survived this long, I began making changes.
I increased the water level (only low enough to allow them out of the water and still keeping them in the tank) and upped to changes weekly, and installed a heater right off. Next I redesigned the tank- installed the largest floating dock I could find (its large enough for them to get completely out of the water) with a heat lamp for them to bask under. When I saw how badly their shells were shedding, I did a little more research and added the UV light. After the first month or so, I was amazed at how much improved they looked! The colors were really brightening in their shells, and their appetites were voracious. I’ve begun plans to move them into a much larger tank and will have a canister filter on it (need suggestions for a good one) as soon as I can get a little money ahead. I thought everything was on the right track… until yesterday.
I noticed this washed out looking spot on the smaller one’s shell. There are no other indications that anything is wrong, but this worries me nonetheless. Any idea what it could be?
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:50 pm   Re: washed out spot

I'm not sure what it could be from the pics, can you post ones of the area dry? Is the area smelly, soft or sensitive? When was the last time they shed?
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:50 pm   Re: washed out spot

If I come near the tank, they dive in the water to beg like they are starved... Dry pics will be hard, but I will try to take them outside if weather is nice over weekend. They both shed a LOT last month, and I was marveling at the beautiful color of their shells (they had been retaining scutes). The spot is not noticeably soft, and it has no odor. It just looks like the color washed out of that scute.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:33 am   Re: washed out spot

I'll make sure they have a good, low-phosphorous diet, get calcium regularly and have a fresh UVB lamp.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:17 pm   Re: washed out spot

The UVB lamp bulb was new in July... What kind of foods would you recommend? Right now they are getting either the reptomin pellets or the zoo med gourmet aquatic turtle food which they seem to like better, depending on which jar I grab.
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Post Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:05 pm   Re: washed out spot

Make sure the UVB is positioned straight over the basking area. Both foods you mention is fine, you can "dust" them for extra calcium. Are they getting any veggies?
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Post Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:09 am   Re: washed out spot

UV and heat lamp are both directly above basking area. This is my smaller turtle, and he seems to spend a good bit more time than his larger tankmate basking. His shell still seems to have a less smooth, more shriveled appearance although it is NOT soft. I keep checking for further problems, but it hasn't really changed any.
I do try to feed them veggies, but they didn't have them when they were younger and don't seem impressed now. About the only veggie I've had any success feeding them is tomatoes- they gobble those. How often should I be pushing veggies? and any suggestions for coaxing them to give them a try?
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Post Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:41 pm   Re: washed out spot

The shriveled or rippled appearance was probably due to an irregular or inconsistent diet. It doesn't look as bad as some of the others I've seen.

You can always push veggies. Reduce the amount of other foods. Things you can try... fresh water aquatic plants, veggie clips and the jello recipe.
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Post Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:31 am   Re: washed out spot

I think the bigger turtle was getting most of the food for awhile before I realized it. I've started feeding them separately so its not an issue anymore. It's poured rain all weekend so I couldn't get a dry pick of his shell, but I'm gonna work on their diet and see if it improves. When the downpouring stops, I'll take him outside and try to get a good dry shot just to be sure.
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