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Post Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:08 am   

hehehe the picture is too big compare to its original size.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:05 am   

Did you ever find the gelatin? I don't know where you are from, but guessing from your turtles' names, I would say somewhere of the Asian persuasion.

Anyways, I was looking up things, and it seems that agar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agar) should also be able to be used or konjac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konjac).

You may have to tweek the recipe, as in add more or less gelling substance to get it to set right, but otherwise, it should act as normal gelatin!
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:51 am   

Now that you've mentioned...I've just realized I haven't write where my position is....I better change my profile.

Yes you're right, I'm from Asia, Indonesia to be exact. I haven't found it yet...but my friend told me she saw it somewhere and I am going to check it on wednesday.

Agar needed to be boiled, if we don't boil it, it won't turn into gel. Would it be okay to cook all those ingredient??

I've tried giving small piece of cuttle bone yesterday...very small...and still waiting for the result. But I still want to make that jello shot, it looks like agreat treat for them
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:53 pm   

How quickly does agar setup?

If you boil it to get it to dissolve, let it cool to as cool as you can, and then add the ingredients, you should be fine. Some of the lettuce will wilt, naturally, and other veggies may end up being softened, but I think that would happen with gelatin as well (I believe it has to be boiled too). I just worry about nutrients at too high of a temperature. But if you can cool it down to like 120 degrees F or less before it sets, you should be fine.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:14 am   

There are 2 kinds of agar... one called jelly will cool off less than 3minutes, the one that we called takes longer time, more than 5 minute.

I'll make agar for my self 1st and see how fast it'll cool off and start becoming solid, and I'll check the temperature too (I have to convert your temperature to celcius because we dont use farenheit here).

I'll be busy like bees from the next 2 days, I will do it on saturday and get back to you again.

PS. I gave her a small piece of cuttle bone again...and she had her white poop again :(
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:16 am   

Ow I almost forgot...Gelatin comes from animal's bone, right? I might be wrong...correct me if I do

Agar comes from seaweed, is that okay?
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:57 am   

Yep, gelatin comes from animal bones (the marrow, I believe) and agar comes from seaweed. As far as I know, seaweed is fine for turtles to eat. Sea turtles eat it quite a lot, and a quick search online seems to show that sliders will eat it too. I am sure that agar is more of the extract of seaweed, and you wouldn't be adding a lot of it I'm sure.

And yeah, it would be in the 45-50 degree celsius range, ultimately, the cooler you can add things, the better, but if it has to be added at a higher temp, it has to be added.

I'm really wondering about your cuttlebone and your turtle. It seems that she is swallowing it whole, and I've never seen my turtle eat it whole. Mine usually chomps it a lot and lots of white powder poofs into the surrounding water. Very odd, and I don't know how to correct for it ...
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:11 am   

I'll try a small amount of agar 1st...to test the right temp...that I'll make the jelly shot.

The bone isn't big tho...the biggest size is half centimeter, when I squeeze her poop it feels powdery with bits of that half cm size bone.

I'm a bit worry that that horibble cocsidia bacteria had gotten her stomach afterall :( . the vet told me that cocsidia sort of eating the inside of its host, if it isn't taken care of...it'll led to a bleeding.

But she had been cured...I can assured that! because her poop is solid, when she had cocsidia her poop was liquid. And now her poop is still solid, but she doesn't diggest her cuttle bone properly :(....so maybe the bacteria had gotten to her stomach before the medication :(
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:15 am   

Have you tried talking to this vet again? Maybe they will have some other ideas ...
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:20 am   

I can't :(

I don't have his number, and it's a hospital...to see him mean examination that will require money...and I am tight on it right now.

I have time tomorrow...finally :). lets try this jelly 1st before going to the vet. She is doing fine on veggie, the problem is only on cuttle bone.
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Kame : My spoiled one (R.I.P)
Kroten : My beautiful RES
Papoe : My Emydura Schultzei (Pink Belly Short Necked Turtle)
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:03 am   

I've made the jelly shot yesterday and have been giving her that jelly for 2days...still waiting to see how her poop will look like
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