Other Turtle Discussion :: Turtle morph or mutation

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:25 am   Turtle morph or mutation

Hi all,

Just curious to know as to how turtle morphs or mutation occur??
Like just pure luck from breeding or certain conditions for it to happen?
Searching through the web but not much info except the sale of such beauties..
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:56 am   Re: Turtle morph or mutation

eviance85 wrote:Hi all,

Just curious to know as to how turtle morphs or mutation occur??
Like just pure luck from breeding or certain conditions for it to happen?
Searching through the web but not much info except the sale of such beauties..



Luck and selective breeding are the normal fo turtle morphs. Keep breeding a dominate trait it will keep appearing in next generations stronger. Some morphs like the really extreme colored pastals are produce with over heating the eggs during incubation. Why almost all have shell deformations and just about always female.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:49 am   Re: Turtle morph or mutation

So basically it means get 2 regular RES to mate then, set a higher temperatures and pray that something rare would appear?
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:56 am   Re: Turtle morph or mutation

eviance85 wrote:So basically it means get 2 regular RES to mate then, set a higher temperatures and pray that something rare would appear?


Pastels aren't really considered too rare, just different. Something to note: you rarely see adult pastels because they die off early.

RES have the most color morphs due to the large size of the captive population and easy breeding. You can get some really cool morphs, well actually mutations (random) like Bumblebees.

If you want, a friend on another forum has a few adult color morphs. I don't know if you need to be a member to see the pics, but check it out.

http://www.turtleforum.com/forum/upload ... pic=142737 (Only the albino is an RES)

Then you have Melanistic Turtles. Turtles who lose their colors as they age. Mostly in males. They look awesome, just all black. I've actually come across a few this year, wish I could take them home, but the pond just isn't pig enough.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:07 pm   Re: Turtle morph or mutation

Yeah its alot different then snakes. With snake morphs there are actual dom and co dom genes that go into the selective breeding and if you get one dom gene and mix it with another dom gene then you get a chance to produce something totally different from both the genes mixing into one snake. Turtles are alot different. Lets say you get a turtle with loads of red and one with not so much red in its color or spots on its shell or something and you breed those to eachother and get ten eggs but only two come out with the load of red color. You let those grow and breed the best colored one back to the best colored adult they came from and keep doing that over generations with the best colors and sooner or later you will get a super red turtle or a super spotted shell if u do it long enough. but that would take years and years and years to perfect. Thats how they came out with all the snake morphs basiclly...
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