Other Turtle Discussion :: This Made Me Smile

[Sir Max]

Well today i was looking up prices on albino RES on turltesource.com thanks to someone on this forum who directed me to that website cant recall his username..

i came across siamese RES they are joined together on their bellys? would you call it and after reading the short description this really made me smile..

normally someone would feel sorry for these turtles..but i am amazed even though this has happend to them they can still live a happy life

Here are two turtles born firmly connected at the bellys. Many Siamese turtles are connected in mid shell, sharing legs and some organs. These are two separate turtles that have only one connection. Born in early July, these two are the picture of perfect health. They work very well together, often swimming in unison to move about their tank. Both eat well, both do well on top or the bottom. Both know how surface to breath at the same time. Watching them work together sometimes makes you think of watching well trained synchronized swimmers - sometimes not. They truly are a great example of team work. We keep them in shallow (2 inch) water with plants to hide in. They love pellets, romaine and chopped crickets. They are well past the difficult early stages and are impressive to see and keep.

Hopefully someone else can enjoy this ;P

[LittleResQNorth]

I've been to turtlesource [not reputable].com- they sell mutated turtles that have very little chance of survival. These turtles will die, or even worse one will die an the other will remain helplessly attatched to it until it dies as well. I've seen these pictures before and they make me want to cry not smile. Sorry for being a buzz kill but if a dog breeder bred and sold mutated Siamese dogs or dogs with two heads for hundreds of dollars it would be a black and white case of animal cruelty, turtles don't have the luxury of laws that cover this abuse so it is allowed to continue and prosper.

[Sir Max]

Welll it was a bit sad untill i was reading the short description

"these two are the picture of perfect health. They work very well together, often swimming in unison to move about their tank. Both eat well, both do well on top or the bottom. Both know how surface to breath at the same time. "


so i figured if their doing ok..then why not

[LittleResQNorth]

They say that about all their turtles so people will spend money on them. They have other turtles with two faces, two heads/6arms, extra limbs, they'll all die, it's how nature works.

[Sir Max]

Well if you look at it that way then you could say every single turtle will die eventually and its true..

[LittleResQNorth]

Ok fine then, all turtles will die either in the wild or in captivity. So will people- oh the pilosophy of it. So therefore we should intentionally breed all kinds of weird mutants because they too shall die. Your not getting the point are you?

[LittleResQNorth]

Sorry for being short with you, I just want people to realize how much animals suffer for some peoples amusement or profit. It's not ok to cause unessasary pain just because the animal will die eventually anyways, that's not close to being an excuse. Like walking through a puppy mill and saying 'well that one looks ok so this can't be that bad, especially since all these dogs will die anyways'. Think about it.

[sull324]

That picture is interesting,i saw it on the same website.

Does it make me smile? no,does it make me cry? no. Its just nature being silly.

As for survival rate,its possible it live as long as an normal turtle with special care but i dont think it actually suffer ,it will just adapt to is condition and live trough it.

[SINI5T3R]

turtles like that arent DOOMED to death in a fish tank. In the wild, they would die pretty quick, but captivity they have like 90% chance of living if you take special care of them. How do you think zoo's and Circus's and stuff have 2 headed snakes and such.

Also, usually 1 body will be the "Lead" body so usually one will follow the other.

[Lilsaint]

I cant imagine how a siamese would coordinate. If 1 wanted to swim normally the other would be upside down and will drown. ???

[SINI5T3R]

I cant imagine how a siamese would coordinate. If 1 wanted to swim normally the other would be upside down and will drown. ???

The only way i could see the possibility of drowning is if one head is facing the others tail. and even then i think they would know to swim a little sideways that way both heads could make it.

[Lilsaint]

Sorry i meant to say suffocate... The air spaces in its lung would be squashed right?

[Sir Max]

Well thats what i mean it is possible for animals to live with this kind of deformity like someone said above thats how animals are at circuses etc.. they are not doomed in a tank

[Turtle Mummy 101]

Sir Max: I can see your point, but ultimately I agree with LittleResQNorth. Although deformities CAN happen naturally in breeding and the animal will adapt, wouldn't you want to give it the best chance possible at a good life? This means starting out life with nothing to overcome.

People who breed for the purpose of producing deformed animals for sale or show are not thinking about the animal and about what pain it may have to endure and what challenges they may have to overcome as a result of their physical state. Why would you want to intentionally cause an animal to suffer -even though they may adapt over time.

I'm just saying...

[Sir Max]

Wow i guess i just blanked out on that one i didnt even think that they were breeding them for this purpose i thought maybe it was naturally

..that definatly does NOT make me smile haha